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Old 12-04-2008 - Glare control Re-visited - Outdoor Lighting Systems - Voltage Talk forum
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Mike had started an excellent thread topic on lenses and shielding. It was appearant that many of us fight glare issues. While that thread got off topic I think the subject needs a thread.

I know alot of you have more experience than I do. What steps do you take for glare control ?

For us the first step is fixture placement. If I still see glare I try to move it. If this doesnt work it gets a louver. If that still doesnt work a fixture change is needed.

As I gain more and more experience I can see it long before it happens. I dont just try to eliminate glare but I try to eliminate bright spots on the fixture caused by seeing the inside of the shrouds.
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Some fixtures allow for a more recessed lamp,.....would this be key in fixture selection?
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Absolutley. A regressed lamp can greatly aid in glare control but beware in some fixtures it can alter your beam spread when using a x-wide lamp

Some fixtures where the lamp is forced right up to the lens will offer more glare. Anytime you have a lamp down inside a fixture then the fixture body in turn becomes more of a shroud. The brass bullet that we have as our go to fixture has the lamp somewhat regressed and there is a silkscreening on the lens to help soften things up.

One of the best designs I have seen out there offers an adjustable shroud. While in some applications it could seem like a rather tall fixture you can bet the glare will be eliminated or at least be reduced to an acceptable level.

It also aids in keeping foilage out of the light path as well which is always a major issue for us at least here with our jungle like plant growth.

We have tried a couple of fixtures with a 360 degree shroud but then can become debris magnets. Just too much pollen and falling tree debris here that clogs up the drain holes.

Fixture placement is your first line of defense against glare.
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There are some out there who will swear by a full cut off, 360 degree long shrouds on all bullet style fixtures. These do work great at removing the glare and hot spots from a system... however, just as Billy mentioned above, they can be debris magnets. Here it comes in the form of falling leaves, needles, and brush.

Unless you are on site on a weekly basis, or you can impart an abnormal level of attention to detail to the grounds maintenance guys, then full shrouds can be a serious PITA.

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Billy do you mind me asking what your go to fixture is?
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solid brass bullet from coppermoon. I think James is using them now and a few others on here. Solid fixture. Zero issues in a year and a half.
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The ZX16 from H.K. Lighting Group is in my opionion the best directional spot in the market today. Hiroshi has a fine line up of products but the ZX16 is one of his finest works. The fit and finish is second to none, the knuckle has no teeth so aiming can be as precise as you wish. The fixture has 360 degree weep holes that are integrated into the body so there are no light leaks, and minimal debris blockage. The shroud comes in an angle cut, or full cut off. The shroud is adjustable and can be expanded or contracted based on beam spread desired and glare reduction needed. This fixture is also dry/wet rated meaning that it capable of being under water for short periods of time without taking on any water.

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Hiroshi is an outstanding designer and craftsman. His lighting designs are so clean and crisp. I met him at lightfair 08 in Vegas and was impressed by his line up including 120v lights with an electronic trans integrated inside the light. These are PERFECT when you need to add a couple of lights to a far reached gate area with no place to hide a remote trans.

Products from vision 3 are also outstanding as well but the sheer cost of them is a niche market in itself.
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including 120v lights with an electronic trans integrated inside the light.

far reached gate area

Funny you should mention that Billy. I have met with a client that wants a tremendous lighting project. 8 acres w/riding arena, security gates, cameras, and the house to boot. I had thought of talking you into a visit down here to help with this project. Design and implementation of automated control system also. This will be too much for my juvenile mind at this point. Of course you would be compensated and treated as royalty. This project is a few months out, but it will happen.
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including 120v lights with an electronic trans integrated inside the light.

far reached gate area

Funny you should mention that Billy. I have met with a client that wants a tremendous lighting project. 8 acres w/riding arena, security gates, cameras, and the house to boot. I had thought of talking you into a visit down here to help with this project. Design and implementation of automated control system also. This will be too much for my juvenile mind at this point. Of course you would be compensated and treated as royalty. This project is a few months out, but it will happen.
Be happy to help you in any way that I can. Often times a project of this scale if it is to be all integrated into a central controller your best off to leave that to a specialist. See Mike's thread on phone controls. We can cross that bridge together when we come to it tho.
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